1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,300 I'm calling for a phenomena research in Seattle, Washington, and we understand that you had 2 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:13,520 made two sightings of unidentified flying objects on the night of October 31st and November 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,520 1st. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,520 Yeah. 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,760 I wonder if we could get a description of your experience of both of those things. 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,760 Yeah. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Right from the beginning, just as it happened to you right from the beginning. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Well, going over around about a quarter after eight that night, that Friday night, I moved 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:43,440 there by clear water junction and I saw what a prison being an airplane dropping by behind 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,440 the mountain. 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Uh-huh. 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,760 And I immediately stopped there at the junction and turned it into the Deer Lodge County Sheriff 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,280 and they sent some planes on looking for it. 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,280 They couldn't find anything I found out. 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:06,320 Well, on my way over, I looked like a boom and a bop and I was moving too fast to be 16 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:07,320 an airplane. 17 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,960 So I know, I just figured it was a meteor or something. 18 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:11,960 Yes. 19 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:13,960 What did this object look like? 20 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:17,960 Well, that time I couldn't read the log and see it was green. 21 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:18,960 Green light. 22 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:19,960 Flashy. 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Just all green. 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Yeah. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Okay. 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Do you have any idea how far away it was? 27 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,160 Well, approximately five or seven, between five and eleven miles, I think. 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Uh-huh. 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:42,160 And then, when I was coming back from the harbour, I was, uh, we were at Northwestern Harbour 30 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:48,160 on Little Ways and just starting to pull a pass, getting ready to pull a pass. 31 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,360 I was about a mile from the bottom of it. 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,360 And everything on the truck was working fine, no, no problems whatsoever. 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,360 And I was letting my lights went out and my engine shut off and all. 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 This will happen if a battery cable breaks on one of the things. 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,360 So I just, you know, start coasting to the stop. 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,360 And then this down thing came over the top of me and hovered all about, stopped about 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,360 a hundred yards ahead of me there and fifty feet off the ground. 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,360 That's where they held me. 39 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Just right over the, it was hovering right over the highway? 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Yeah. 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Uh-huh. 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:26,560 Now, would you give us a description of that object as detailed as you can? 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:38,560 Well, uh, it was approximately fifty feet in diameter and I would say twenty-five or 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,560 thirty feet high. 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Uh-huh. 46 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:49,760 It had a big bubble-like object on top and a smaller one on the bottom which is for 47 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,760 the real bright, bright search light that they had on me. 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Oh, they were directing a beam of light on you? 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Yeah. 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,760 Okay, what color was that beam? 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,760 White. 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Okay. 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Then on the outside edge there's four green flashing lights which I was seeing. 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,960 I was seeing the same thing that I saw, I played a lot of drunks for hours before. 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:20,960 And the object just remained stationary over the highway at all, at all times? 56 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Yeah. 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,960 Approximately how long was it there? 58 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Uh, I'd say five minutes. 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Okay, now when it left, did it take off with just a casual motion or was it high speed? 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Oh, real high speed. 61 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,960 I see. 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,160 Yeah, as far as you're getting out of there or something. 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,160 And how far away do you figure it was from you? 64 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,160 A hundred yards. 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Okay, did you hear any sound? 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Uh, real loud turbine lights, like big turbines on a plane or something, I'll just order. 67 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Okay. 68 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,160 But there was no turbulence from it. 69 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Okay, now, what color was the object itself? 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:11,360 I'd say a shiny gray or silver color. 71 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Uh-huh. 72 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,360 I couldn't see it too good on a cloud, it was light shining in my eyes. 73 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,360 I see, okay. 74 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Before everything, before they turned out on to me, it didn't appear to be a silver, 75 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,360 gray or in that category. 76 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,360 Okay, how long was the object covering in front of you before they turned that shaft 77 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,360 to light onto you? 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,560 Just a few seconds. 79 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Okay, now did they turn that off before the object left? 80 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,560 No, it was still on when I found the world of Bob's and Bob's. 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,560 I see, okay. 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Now how about that bubble top? 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Was there any light coming from it? 84 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,560 A lot that I could see. 85 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,560 I can't see a lot. 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,560 The light was a damn bright. 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Uh, I didn't look into it, but just a little bit, just not listening to my eyes burn. 88 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:00,760 I see. 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,760 In other words, this light that they were directing on you was actually diffusing your vision. 90 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,760 Yeah. 91 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Okay. 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Now those colored lights, were they stable or were they moving at all? 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,760 Well, they were staying still, you know, but they were flashing. 94 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Flashing off and on? 95 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Yeah. 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Did it seem to have any pattern? 97 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Were they in unison or sequence at all? 98 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Yeah, I mean... 99 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,560 I don't know what you'd call it. 100 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,560 They all seemed to have a pattern, which is flashing. 101 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,560 Did they flash? 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,560 I don't know. 103 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,560 The one right behind it would come around and then one to the side, you'd come on and on. 104 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,560 And it would discontinue that sequence? 105 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,560 Yeah. 106 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:46,560 Okay. 107 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,560 How far off of the highway was this object? 108 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,560 About 50 feet above the ground. 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Okay. 110 00:05:54,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Now, while you were sitting there and watching this, did you have any unusual physical feelings at all? 111 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,560 Not while I was sitting there. 112 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:14,560 After the thing left, I felt like supernatural powers, you know. 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Uh-huh. 114 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,560 I felt like I could have picked up the world and threw it over my shoulder. 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,560 I see. 116 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Okay. 117 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,560 Well, I've talked to guys that are paramedics and whatnot, and they say this is friendly to the other one, 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,560 moving my system so fast that it's just been good to take it. 119 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,560 Okay. 120 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,560 I don't know how much truth there is to it. 121 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,560 Well, did this experience frighten you? 122 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Frighten me? 123 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,560 Yes. 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:38,560 Yes. 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:39,560 Okay. 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:46,560 Did you have the feeling by any chance, while all this was occurring, that you were being watched? 127 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:53,560 I, yeah, I had the feeling that they were, you might say, checking me out, you know. 128 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,560 Yes. 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:02,560 The truck I drove, I pulled a big tank, and I, I'm caught under, well, I don't know if you 130 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,560 thought it was an impression or what. 131 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:15,560 To the fact that, you know, how it both meant the powdered stuff, and I kind of think they're just checking my load out to see, 132 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:22,560 checking me in plus the load to see if there was an energy supplying the source of energy. 133 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Yes. 134 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,560 I think that's the point. 135 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:31,560 I was just checking my load out to see, checking me in plus the load to see if there was an 136 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,560 energy supplying the source of energy. 137 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,560 Yes. 138 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,560 Were you carrying the same load on the previous siding? 139 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,560 I was emptying that. 140 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,560 Okay. 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,560 I was going over to get my load. 142 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Did you ever get out of the truck while this was going on? 143 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Well, I started to. 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,560 I had the door open. 145 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,560 I was just kind of, I don't know, I just kind of froze right there in the seat. 146 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,560 Did you have the impression that maybe this object had something to do with you staying in the truck? 147 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,560 No. 148 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,560 Okay. 149 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:12,560 Now, did you have any physical feelings such as tingling sensation or numbing in any part 150 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,560 of your body? 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,560 No, I didn't. 152 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Okay. 153 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Have you had any physical defects or mental problems since this has happened to you? 154 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,560 Not that I can say. 155 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,560 No, I think about it all the time. 156 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,560 I'm a little mad. 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,560 So have you dreamt about it at all? 158 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Yes. 159 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Okay. 160 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,560 Are you dreaming, just a reoccurrence of what you experienced? 161 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,560 Yes, a lot. 162 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:42,560 I get to know about what might have happened to me. 163 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:43,560 Yes. 164 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:46,560 I do this quite often. 165 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:47,560 Okay. 166 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:53,560 Were there any other witnesses beside yourself? 167 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:54,560 No. 168 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:55,560 You were the only one. 169 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:56,560 Okay. 170 00:08:56,560 --> 00:09:07,560 Now, when that object was hovering over the highway, did it have any motion or movement 171 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:08,560 of any kind? 172 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:13,560 No, it just stopped as if it was hanging from no strings or something. 173 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,560 It didn't move a bit. 174 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:19,560 And how long was that under observation again? 175 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:20,560 About five minutes. 176 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,560 About five minutes, okay. 177 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,560 It stopped my watch for that long anyway. 178 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:25,560 It did? 179 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:26,560 Yeah. 180 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:27,560 Okay. 181 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:31,560 Did you have that watch checked out for magnetic problems at all? 182 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:32,560 No, I didn't. 183 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:34,560 It seems to be running all right now. 184 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,560 Were you playing a radio in the truck at the time? 185 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:38,560 Yes. 186 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:39,560 Did that also go out? 187 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:40,560 Everything. 188 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:41,560 Everything. 189 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:42,560 Everything electrical went out. 190 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:43,560 Okay. 191 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,560 Any chance to have shortwave or CB radio in the truck? 192 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,560 I've got a two-way radio in it, yeah. 193 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:50,560 Did you try using that? 194 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:54,560 Yeah, it was off because if you're a crowd, that thing's got a humming sound to it. 195 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:56,560 There wasn't a sound there. 196 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:57,560 Okay. 197 00:09:57,560 --> 00:09:59,560 Now, did you use it at any time right after your experience? 198 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:00,560 No. 199 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:01,560 Okay. 200 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:08,560 And there were no major mechanical defects to the truck other than the fact that the 201 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,560 engine or the electrical system went out? 202 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,560 We haven't been able to find anything. 203 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:20,560 We have been worried what feels like the engine was hot and all from working it and 204 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,560 it shut it down in that bigger hurry. 205 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:27,560 It's possible it could have done a bunch of things, but we haven't been able to find 206 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:28,560 anything yet. 207 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:30,560 It hasn't been anywhere. 208 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:31,560 Okay. 209 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:36,560 But have you seen anything else in the sky since this experience? 210 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,560 Well, I haven't. 211 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,560 All right. 212 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,560 What was your opinion of these objects prior to your experience? 213 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,560 I was kind of a half-waste believer in them. 214 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:52,560 I figured there's got to be somebody in this world smarter than what we are that can do 215 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:53,560 this kind of stuff. 216 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:54,560 Yes. 217 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:59,560 And this is my opinion of them, but I'm a firm believer in it. 218 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:00,560 Okay. 219 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:11,560 Did you have any strange feelings or any premonition type feelings prior to the time that you 220 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:13,560 saw the second object? 221 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:14,560 No. 222 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:15,560 Okay. 223 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:22,560 Now, if we send you a questionnaire, would you take the time to fill it in? 224 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:23,560 Yeah. 225 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:25,560 Hey, uh... 226 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:36,560 I'm more or less trying to just put, you know, I'm getting to the damn target of everybody. 227 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:44,560 I'm feeling a little more in the valley here and everybody has to see I got to explain 228 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:45,560 it to them, you know. 229 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:46,560 Oh, I see. 230 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:53,560 I'm getting kind of tired of that and I just kind of like to try to forget about the whole 231 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:54,560 damn thing as much as I can. 232 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:55,560 Uh-huh. 233 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:58,560 Have you had any other agencies calling you on this? 234 00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,560 No, I haven't. 235 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:00,560 Okay. 236 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:01,560 Well, we did too. 237 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:03,560 There was some... 238 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:09,560 Oh, I forgot what they called, so it was a very awesome item, I incorporated or something 239 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:10,560 like that. 240 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:11,560 Oh, I see. 241 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:12,560 Where were they located? 242 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:13,560 Uh, just a minute. 243 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:14,560 Ready? 244 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,560 Where was that other officer from the... 245 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,560 Calling the officer? 246 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:33,560 Yeah, they've got a branch here in Kalispell, they've got members here at the Research 247 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:35,560 Committee on Neurofenotomy. 248 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:36,560 Oh, I see. 249 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:37,560 Okay. 250 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:40,560 It's not a federal agency or anything like that. 251 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:41,560 Right. 252 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:49,560 Well, sir, we sure appreciate you're talking to us on this matter and if you happen to 253 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,560 see anything in the future, why we'd like to hear from you. 254 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:53,560 Okay. 255 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,560 And our number here in Seattle is... 256 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:56,560 Thank you very much. 257 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:57,560 You're welcome. 258 00:12:57,560 --> 00:12:58,560 Goodbye.